PMWX meeting-call 2010-02-11
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- Start Time: 9:00pm EDT / 6:00pm PDT / 01:00 UTC (1B)
- Expected Call Duration: 1.0 hours (1C)
- This is a Skype call. (1D)
- You must be a member of the PMWX group to participate in the call. Send email to KenBaclawski if you are not in the group and wish to join. (1D1)
- Start Skype on your machine at least a minute before the meeting time to ensure that you are connected to the call. (1D2)
- If you join the meeting late, please send a Skype chat message to KenBaclawski so you can be added to the call. (1D3)
- Attendees: (1E)
- Call ended: 10:00pm EDT / 7:00pm PDT / 02:00 UTC (1F)
- Welcome to Snowvee Gonsalves. (3A1)
- Many thanks to Tejas for fixing problems with the the new OOR instance very quickly. (3B1)
- The decision about phasing out OOR-01 should have been discussed at the OOR meeting on 2/05/2010. (3B1A)
- For information about access to the team production machine PSMW-01, see http://project.cim3.net/wiki/PMWX_meeting-call_2009-10-08#hid3B (3B2)
- List of Servers (machines and virtual machines) (3B3)
- OOR-01 is the old OOR sandbox which will be phased out and mapped to what is now OOR-01f. (3B3A)
- OOR-01f is now running an OOR instance. (3B3B)
- OOR-02 will be the production OOR. (3B3C)
- OOR-nn can be other OOR instances. (3B3D)
- lisf has been virtualized and is running okay. (3B3E)
- The OOR image will be on ontology.ccs.neu.edu. (3B3E1)
- PSMW-01 is running development PSMW (3B3F)
- Ontolog-01 which will run test, then a parallel Ontolog CWE (using PSMW) which will eventually be the production Ontolog CWE (3B3G)
- CIM3 will make arrangements to move the svn repository from project.cim3.net to PSMW-01. (3B4)
- This will be done after the new code has been committed to the existing svn repository. (3B4A)
- Test and Release Plan (3C1)
- The installation instructions in the release notes have been updated. See http://project.cim3.net/wiki/PMWX_Release_Notes (3C1A)
- 1.5RC is now available. This is only for us. (3C1C)
- Everyone should download the release candidate for testing. (3C1D)
- HID Test Sites (3C2)
- Development is now focused on these issues: (3C3)
- Bug fixing (3C3A)
- Transclusion development (3C3B)
- MunmunMahapatra is taking the lead on transclusion development. She has been working with SumitPurohit and TejasParikh. (3C3B1)
- Her report was discussed. (3C3B2)
- Peter made the suggestion that when transclusion cannot be done in a transparent way, then the transcluded section should be placed in a "box" (i.e., a table with a border and a single cell) as if it was an image of the section of the original page. (3C3B3)
- Purple numbers would be provided for the items in the transcluded page so as to maintain the hierarchy. This will require some modification to the original HID algorithm so it is sensitive to trancluded boxes. (3C3B4)
- Munmun will be experimenting with this idea to see if it works and will be posting some examples in a few days. (3C3B5)
- Transclusion Tasks (3C4)
- (Priority 1) Catch infinite loops (3C4A)
- (Priority 2) Branch transclusion (3C4B)
- This is a research issue because of the difficulty of maintaining hierarchical information within the new context. Whatever solution must be fast and simple. (3C4B1)
- Make a list of tags for elements that have purple numbers. For each tag specify a strategy for how such an element will be transcluded in another page. (3C4B2)
- A branch consists of an element and all child elements. Note that the hierarchy for purple numbers may not be the same as the HTML hierarchy. (3C4B3)
- (Priority 3) Range transclusion (3C4C)
- This is a research issue because of the difficulty of maintaining hierarchical information within the new context. Whatever solution must be fast and simple. (3C4C1)
- Extend the strategy for branch transclusion tags described above to the case of ranges. (3C4C2)
- There may not be enough interest in this kind of transclusion. This may be deleted upon review. (3C4C3)
- (Priority 4) Other media objects (3C4D)
- (Priority 6) External transclusion from PMWX wikis (3C4F)
- (Priority 7) Named anchor transclusion from any HTML page (3C4G)
- Tejas expects to return to this development effort in a week or so. (3D1)
- Test Migration Sites: (3D2)
- some comments on the results from the test version cited in http://project.cim3.net/forum//pmwx-dev/2009-06/msg00007.html (3D3)
- special cases, see: (3D3A)
- [[ ONTOLOG ]] or [ home-search ] at http://lisf.ccs.neu.edu/dev/pw2mw/test-migration/index.php?title=WikiHomePage&oldid=17027#hid2B (3D3A1)
- another special case: none of the text button are working (3D3B)
- the above issue also affect references to items (purple numbers) on the same page (3D3C)
- Peter: we will really need to try to resolve this - as it affects almost all meetings and events pages (3D3C1)
- Bold-faced WikiWords are not being automatically linked, but are done correctly when not in bold-face (3D3D)
- see: "MeetingsCalls" at (3D3D1)
- Be sure to specify the component (HID, Migration, NID, etc.) for any bug/issue. (3D4A)
- The current plan is (3D5)
- Tejas confirms that the code is ready. (3D5A)
- Tejas develops a migration instance based on a snapshot. (3D5B)
- Peter and Jonathan review the results. (3D5C)
- The process is then iterated to improve code and documentation. (3D5D)
- Iterate with a test version on the production server. (3D5E)
- When this is complete, the production server will be migrated. (3D5F)
- The work will be migrated to the new production machine. (3D6)
- Eventually the Ontolog site will be migrated, running in parallel for a while with the old site. (3D7)
- Initial testing can be done on lisf and then continued on PSMW-01 and then on to Ontolog-01. This will follow the release of the next version of PMWX. (3D8)
- A proof of concept was developed on PurpleWiki. (3E3)
- Develop a tag cloud system on Purple Semantic MediaWiki that takes in some user input to create a simple cloud with PHP and CSS. (3E4)
- Tiki would be the first example of software that exploits the semantic possibilities for purple numbers, if it is finished before the issue tracker achieves this. (3E5)
- Design decision: Search functionality (3E8)
- Dawei will be developing hooks to allow extending PMW: (3E9)
- DiseaseLink is being done by YavuzEren and Dolphy Fernandes. (3F1)
- The DiseaseLink wiki is on the lisf server: diseaselink.ccs.neu.edu. This is password-protected and available only for the DiseaseLink team. (3F1A)
- Biobank is tentatively being done by Maximo Gurmendez and Parth Chothani. (3F2)
- The Biobank wiki is on the lisf server: biobank.ccs.neu.edu. This site is not yet active. (3F2A)
- The first version of the implementation should be available for examination for this meeting. (3G2)
- This will be based on the Purple Wiki Migration Tool which is already modular so it should be possible to adapt it to the task of importing other kinds of content. (3H1)
- Everyone should be consistent in their use of acronyms and the associated terminology. (3I1)
- PMWX is our development project to create the "Purple MediaWiki Extension" (3I1A)
- A MediaWiki instance with PMWX installed is "Purple MediaWiki (PMW)" (3I1B)
- A MediaWiki instance with the "Semantic MediaWiki Extension" installed is "Semantic MediaWiki (SMW)" (3I1C)
- A MediaWiki instance with both the "Semantic MediaWiki Extension" and the "Purple MediaWiki Extension (PMWX)" installed is "Purple Semantic MediaWiki (PSMW)" (3I1D)
- The combination of the Halo extension with SMW is called SMW+. The current version is 1.4.5. See http://project.cim3.net/forum//pmwx-dev/2009-10/msg00004.html (3I1E)
- Peter: we will be including SMW+ as an integral part of the PSMW+ install (and that, as part of the CIM3's CWE 2.0 platform suite) (3I1E1)
- An instance with both SMW+ and PMWX installed is called PSMW+. (3I1F)
- Distributed SMW is called DSMW. The first public alpha release is version 0.3. (3I1G)
- Reminder to investigate what other people are doing (such as Yaron Koran, ontoprise). We could possibly collaborate with them. (3J1)
- NirmalShah should submit his paper to a semantic wiki venue as soon as the implementation has been released. (4A)
- PMWX Introductory presentation by Sumit Purohit at CCIS Data Semantics Seminar (4B)
- Ensure synchronization between the CIM3-ProjectWiki and the NU CCIS-OntologyWiki, both in terms of: (5A)
- (Priority 1) Migration (Tejas primary developer. Ken can review and make suggestions) (6A)
- (Priority 1) HID bug fixes and cleanup (Tejas and Sumit) (6B)
- (Priority 1) Purple SemanticMediaWiki Applications (various applications and people) (6C)
- (Priority 2) Issue Tracker (NirmalShah has finished the paper and is working on the implementation) (6D)
- (Priority 2) Extend Transclusion feature. (Branch Transclusion etc.) (Tejas and Sumit) (6E)
- (Priority 3) NID development (Sumit primary developer, Viral and Tejas can review and make suggestions). This must be coordinated with Tiki. (6F)
- (Priority 3) Tiki (DaweiDai and SrividyaMandaleeka primary developers. Tejas and Viral can review and make suggestions) (6G)
- (Priority 4) Purple SemanticMediaWiki Enhancement (to be assigned later) (6H)
